tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post8899866487652122252..comments2023-09-23T17:51:41.424+08:00Comments on 馬沙筆記 Char Blogger: 全民罷工馬沙http://www.blogger.com/profile/03792393638658031926noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-41861070472180755502007-08-21T05:38:00.000+08:002007-08-21T05:38:00.000+08:00補充: 如果職工盟叫錯價, 令僱主請唔起工人, 到時工人自然會調整薪酬的期望, 亂叫價的工會自然不會...補充: 如果職工盟叫錯價, 令僱主請唔起工人, 到時工人自然會調整薪酬的期望, 亂叫價的工會自然不會獲得支持<BR/><BR/>可能大家會話:有冇搞錯, 搞番掂時好多工人可能已經走投無路! 但, 自由市場調整一定要時間, 大家是否很反對公平競爭法嗎? 但公平競爭法, 就是耍解決呢類time lag問題. <BR/><BR/>所以接受自由經濟, 必須接受有一段摸索調整的過程, 不能輸打贏要TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275409264360272516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-53333635684330333292007-08-21T05:32:00.000+08:002007-08-21T05:32:00.000+08:00同意最後一位匿名君之觀點, 自由市場最簡單一定係demand+supply話事, 僱主大哂係因為僱主...同意最後一位匿名君之觀點, 自由市場最簡單一定係demand+supply話事, 僱主大哂係因為僱主有僱員沒有的條件(如對行情的掌握, 實力, whatever), 只要唔係由第三者介入, 雙方議價天公地道, 況且雙方都有可能睇錯市叫錯價, 但不等於第三者應該隨意指點<BR/><BR/>恕我直言, 你篇文似支持資本家專制多於支持自由市場.TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10275409264360272516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-65711619578220119632007-08-20T22:26:00.000+08:002007-08-20T22:26:00.000+08:00“在自由市場,薪金及工時從來由僱主定立,鮮有由僱員自己來定。“ Don't think so, pr...“在自由市場,薪金及工時從來由僱主定立,鮮有由僱員自己來定。“ Don't think so, price of labour is normally determined by demand and supply.<BR/><BR/>"現今打工仔真係惡,竟可聯手罷工逼令僱主加薪及減工時" <BR/>The workers have every right to unite for better bargining power.<BR/><BR/>If capitalist have everything their way, they would pay the worker shit ... your arguments are exactly the same ones that see children sent down to mines centuries ago. <BR/><BR/>Seems like you work pretty hard for your money .. that is far enough.. I seen many honkies when they go overseas and accuse how other people are lazy and in-efficient .. but hey, are cities like Sydney or London or Frankfurt any lesser than Honkong ? Residents there are definatly alot happier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-43389542048866955842007-08-16T17:08:00.000+08:002007-08-16T17:08:00.000+08:00馬沙不是做會計麼?而家好好景呀!馬沙不是做會計麼?而家好好景呀!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-74348313099142298962007-08-16T13:36:00.000+08:002007-08-16T13:36:00.000+08:00佢地除左罷工,另一樣其實係要番d原本比佢地既薪金喎。因為工頭拖數,咪仲大晒。有頭髮邊個想咁呀。你估訓...佢地除左罷工,另一樣其實係要番d原本比佢地既薪金喎。因為工頭拖數,咪仲大晒。<BR/>有頭髮邊個想咁呀。你估訓街罷工真係好型咩。財團能力肯定遠較工會之上。<BR/>有時候佢地既激烈行為,唔係沒有因由。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-74238323300574515702007-08-16T11:57:00.000+08:002007-08-16T11:57:00.000+08:00我準備下個月加入你行業的小小小「經營者」呀!死火喇,唔通我又選擇錯? 不過,咁多年的經歷,我知道...我準備下個月加入你行業的小小小「經營者」呀!死火喇,唔通我又選擇錯?<BR/> <BR/>不過,咁多年的經歷,我知道一個事實:我們這行業的員工如果不做「經營者」(除了少數打工皇帝和公務員外),不少人到了中年之後,技術+體力退化時,下場和扎鐵工人沒有兩樣喇,每次被迫轉工後(e.g. 公司收檔、被收購…)都加workload和減人工!<BR/><BR/>好似我「拍」講,"this is a lifestyle" 做「經營者」有壓力,但起碼可以多勞多得,唔似年老員工「薪金一定俾人 cut,永遠返唔到 97」!<BR/><BR/>加油! May God bless you!森美.小炳https://www.blogger.com/profile/06824444401851812358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-50788191627357173242007-08-15T17:58:00.000+08:002007-08-15T17:58:00.000+08:00扎鐵工人一向有工會撐腰,已經算有牙力同老闆周旋。其他弱勢行業,如保安及清潔等,情況惡劣得多。本地建造...扎鐵工人一向有工會撐腰,已經算有牙力同老闆周旋。其他弱勢行業,如保安及清潔等,情況惡劣得多。本地建造業需求減少,供應維持,部份工作更被新技術取替,人工下調就好似時代洪流,無人可以阻止。<BR/><BR/>莫講話建造業,就算繪圖、IT、工程設計等知識型服務業,部份工作亦已經外判他方,個地球越來越平,全球一體化,唔好再問:“Who moved my cheese ?”波蘿游https://www.blogger.com/profile/17366005232380020632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-82721121057850660732007-08-15T17:32:00.000+08:002007-08-15T17:32:00.000+08:00人是拒絕轉變, 活在當下, 懷抱過去風光人是拒絕轉變, 活在當下, 懷抱過去風光Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-52797145839320778042007-08-15T16:32:00.000+08:002007-08-15T16:32:00.000+08:00沙沙,豉油俺都唔系睇晒,不過林深一層,佢地話而家個會同大判定左個日薪,但系又唔系日日有工開,所以實際...沙沙,<BR/><BR/>豉油俺都唔系睇晒,不過林深一層,佢地話而家個會同大判定左個日薪,但系又唔系日日有工開,所以實際每個月代落袋既根本小過$950 x30...<BR/><BR/>果班PK 提議港深大融合,俺唔相信系即刻多左幾百萬個中產深圳同胞,反而系首當其衝死呢班粗工,你地嘈嘈貢,兩日就等如人地深圳一個月人工,惦有得比,但下一批死既就系其它無技術既,下一批就系有技術既,就連會專業,大學生都會腳震。<BR/><BR/>國內人好羨慕香港人搵咁多錢,但系如果計實質可用工資%(net disposal income),真系好好多咩?<BR/><BR/>搵特首唔系話要出泥主持公道,同特首講如果深港融合就排隊跳皇后碼頭把啦。seikomatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14587946564402199319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32820892.post-9582209838665666162007-08-15T12:22:00.000+08:002007-08-15T12:22:00.000+08:00我好贊成你既講法,依家香港只係某d生意ok (e.g. 零售,金融),根本無可能話已經復甦到好似以前...我好贊成你既講法,依家香港只係某d生意ok (e.g. 零售,金融),根本無可能話已經復甦到好似以前咁好....<BR/>唉...真係好討厭見到d人整到hk"立立亂".... :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com