星期五, 9月 07, 2007

表達意見

馬沙上星期寫過立法會會計界代表譚香文,同香港會計師公會對簿公堂的結果,譚議員先贏一仗。

馬沙講過好多次,好多會員唔認同公會今次做法,亦不滿公會從未就此事向會員作出諮詢。如今全體會員要一同承擔近500萬訴訟費,一眾會計師對公會已有微言。由於有傳聞話公會正考慮就案件上訴,更令公會會員擔心。

馬沙上周講過,如公會不盡快向會員就此事作出詳盡解釋及聽取會員意向,會員分分鐘學扎鐵工人上街抗議。香港專業的會計師們一向是比較沉默的一群,平時亦完全信賴公會的所有決定。可是,馬沙近日就收到好多會員電郵,表達他們對公會的不滿及不願意見到公會就上述案件作出上訴。

而當中更有會計師採取行動,一名梁姓會計師就選擇聯同幾位會計師,今天下午1時於灣仔小童群益會602室開記者招待會表達意見,並歡迎各會計師到場支持咁話。

在這個Web 2.0年代,又有一班年輕會計師在網上論壇,試圖以「網絡就是力量」的互動威力,打破傳統,發起一個名為「一人一信,阻止香港會計師公會上訴」的行動,會否成功,且看Web 2.0的威力。如有會計師想參與,可在「馬沙筆記 http://charblogger.blogspot.com/ 」下載信件範本。

其實根據「專業會計師附例」,只要有100名會員提出書面要求,公會就要開EGM,可是幾十年來從未試過用此方法集合起來,且看公會今次點解決。

(9月7日刊於《am730》)


伸延閱讀:

會計界上訴鬧內訌 《蘋果日報》


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後話:

「一人一信,阻止香港會計師公會上訴」的行動是一群會計界人士,由於不滿HKICPA利用會員的金錢去進行一些無謂的私人恩怨訴訟,所以在網上發起:


信件範本由以下網上論壇提供:
http://www11.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=5221572&extra=page%3D1

各位會計界同業、友好, 現有一份草稿,各位會計界朋友請自已作出修改,然後分發給友好、同事、同學們,請他們立刻發動一人一信行動,阻止公會諸公再犯錯誤。


各位會計界朋友:

我們是一群會計界人士,十分關注會計界立法會代表譚香文與香港會計師公會之間,就公會拒絕為譚議員寄發通訊的決定作出的司法覆核。我們同意法院已作出公平的判決。

高等法院法官在判詞中指出,公會停止為譚議員寄發通訊的決定,是不合法和不合理的。

法院已裁定公會需支付譚議員的訴訟費,並需承擔自己的訴訟費,當中包括兩位,其中一位來自英國的資深大律師的收費。估計公會可能需要支付約五百萬元的費用。若公會決定提出上訴,訴訟費用將會加倍。我們認為上訴將需要進一步浪費公會的財政資源,故此對公會提出上訴表示強烈保留。

我們現希望透過電郵,發起一個簽名運動,共同提出以下幾個訴求:

1. 在公會落實提出上訴前,必須先諮詢會員的意見;

2. 若有需要,公會應召開特別會員大會,讓會員就是否提出上訴表達意見;

3. 公會必須盡最大努力維持與立法會會計界代表的合作關係,保障會計業界的最大權益,並在社會建立負責任的形象;及

4. 公會應協助立法會的業界代表與會員溝通。

若各位認同上述訴求,請簽署以下表格,並電郵至hkicpa@hkicpa.org.hk或傳真至2865 6603,謝謝支持!

會計界司法覆核關注組 謹啟

我支持上述的訴求
I support the above statement

姓名Name:__________________________________
香港會計師公會會員編號HKICPA membership Number:______________
簽署Signature:_______________________________
日期Date:___________________________________


註:
請CC到以下電郵:

1. SCMP: info@scmp.com
2. 蘋果日報電郵 webmaster@info.atnext.com
3. Mandy Tam: fax: 2537 1425 contactus@mandytam.com




An English Version:

Dear Fellow Accountants,

We are a group of accountants. We write to express our concern about the judicial review between Hon Mandy Tam, our LegCo representative and the HKICPA concerning the Institute’s decision to cease distributing Ms Tam’s newsletters to members.

The High Court has ruled that, “the decision of the Council to terminate the distribution of Ms Tam’s newsletters was made in consequence of errors of law, and is accordingly irrational”.

The Court ordered the Institute to pay for Mandy Tam’s costs. The Institute also has to pay its own costs, which include fees for two senior Counsels, one of whom was from England. It has been estimated that the total legal costs which the Institute has to pay amount to 5 million dollars. If the Council were to lodge the appeal, the legal costs would further be increased. This is an unacceptable waste of the members’ money. We have strong reservation whether the Institute should lodge an appeal.

We are now initiating a signature campaign via this email to advocate our views as follows:

1. the Council should consult its members before making any decision as to whether to lodge an appeal;

2. If necessary, the Council should hold an Extraordinary General Meeting to canvass members’ view before making any appeal;

3. the Institute should try its best to maintain a good working relationship with the Legislative Council representative of the accounting profession in order to safeguard the best interests of the profession; and to maintain a responsible image in the society.

4. the Institute should assist the Legislative Council representative to communicate with the members she represents.

If you agree with the above statement, please sign below and email the completed form to hkicpa@hkicpa.org.hk or fax it to 2865 6603.

Thank you in advance for your support.

Yours faithfully,
Accountants’ JR Concern Group

我支持上述的訴求I support the above statement
姓名Name:__________________________________
香港會計師公會會員編號HKICPA membership Number:______________
簽署Signature:_______________________________
日期Date:___________________________________

註:
請CC到以下電郵:

1. SCMP: info@scmp.com
2. 蘋果日報電郵 webmaster@info.atnext.com
3. Mandy Tam: fax: 2537 1425 contactus@mandytam.com



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免責聲明:

馬沙特此聲明,信件範本內容並不代表馬沙本人立場,馬沙本人與會計界司法覆核關注組完全無關。當中內容對錯,請讀者自行判斷。

14 則留言:

人在大口環 說...

強烈支持有近三萬會員會費作後盾的香港會計師公會再次挑戰譚香文這位鑽石山星河明居女議員!

匿名 說...

I cannot understand why the two parties need to go to the court!

And why didn't HKICPA ask the memembers if they are willing to recieve Mandy's newletter before they stop senting the newletter.

Many memebers are very disapponited with HKICPA. First the "(in)famous advertisment and then this law suit.

nardo 說...

更正:
各位努力呀!我相信我地一定可以迫到HKICPA唔好用我地d$作無謂o既上訴!

Danny 說...

睇完馬老弟呢篇,作為CPA的我,只有大叫一聲「好」!

資深會計師 說...

馬沙兄不傀為會計之「聲」!

匿名 說...

We call for Corporate Goverance and yet our Institute act without - such important decisions should call for EGM by the management and not at the request of members. Didn't they know the requirements under Companies Ordinance? How then should we be facing our clients when our own Institute did not observe the practice they are promoting?

Jack 說...

樓上匿名講得好!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

old old cake 說...

Why mix up the JR with a memorial service ??
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From: HKICPA [mailto:ec+r-46e4fc2bc7a406.11155901@ecircular.hkicpa.org.hk]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:13 PM
To: 123
Subject: Letter to members re Judicial review

10 September 2007
Dear Mr. 123,
Letter to members re Judicial review
In late August, the court of First Instance overruled the Council's decision to cease distribution of the legislative counsellor's (accountancy) newsletter to members who did not ask for it.
A number of members have written to the Institute about this decision, which was made by the court in the judicial review brought against the Institute by the legislative counsellor.
Legal and financial implications - and members' concerns - will be a focus of Council's consideration about the next steps to take as they review the content of the judgment.
As you will appreciate, this is a matter that merits full deliberation along many dimensions. This deliberation, in turn, takes time. As soon as the Council has fully discussed the matter and come to a decision, we will inform you. In the meantime, other messages about the Council's actions regarding the Court's ruling have no basis in fact.
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On a matter of more lasting importance to the profession, we will be holding a memorial service at 4:30 today in honour of our founding President, Sir Gordon Macwhinnie, at St. John's Cathedral on Garden Road. This service should remind us why being an accountant is important. Sir Gordon's life was an inspiration to those who knew him and he helped lay the foundation upon which we, as members of the Hong Kong Institute of CPAs, have built a world class profession. Please find the President's tribute to Sir Gordon and our early founders in the September edition of A Plus.

Sincere regards,
Winnie C.W. Cheung
Chief Executive & Registrar

匿名 說...

Winnie the Pooh 越來越九唔搭八。

另16:42分出E-mail remind你 a memorial service will be holding at 4:30 today,更加九唔搭八。

黎小田問我 說...

Judicial Review 跟 Sir Gordon Macwhinnie 之死對會計師公會是同樣重要,但卻屬於 "大纜扯唔埋" 之兩回事, Winnie Cheung 女士今日竟然將其二合為一, 並以 Subject: Letter to members re Judicial review 來發給會員, 甚不得體也!

"CPA - the Success Ingredient!"

我呸!

關菊英答你 說...

或許在Winnie Cheung 女士心中,Sir Gordon Macwhinnie 之死,正正=會計師公會之死....

"CPA - the Success Ingredient!"

Gordon Gin 說...

近年會計師公會所做的事真係超硬膠,打開最新一期A-Plus,又整個什麼CPA beat MBA 調查報告....唉....點解係要踏住人來抬高自己呢?

夏韶聲 Om Life 說...

mailto:ec+r-46e4fc2bc7a406.11155901@ecircular.hkicpa.org.hk

Old Old Cake : 這段文字可能已經出賣左你! 嘿!

old old cake 說...

夏韶聲 Om Life :
好惊....好惊.....有名叫old cake即就來唔洗做.....唔好惊。
更何况,我也是传贴....123仁兄不是我...
嘿! 嘿!